Mark the O
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« on: November 14, 2009, 02:07:05 PM » |
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I worked up to my one rep max the other day on squat and a few days later on deadlift. I always see guys with stats that say their deadlift is much higher than their squat....??
my squat is about 30 pounds over my deadlift. should it be the other way around?
NOTE: i have been working on my lower back lately because i feel its a weak link in my leg days. maybe my lower back just needs more work.
thoughts..........
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2009, 02:50:32 PM » |
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Me too, my deadlift is worse than my squat. I'm doing the same weight for both of them 150lbs, but feel unstable on the deadlift.
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2009, 07:51:44 PM » |
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I can lift more on my deadlift than my squat (and I can lift heavier back squat than front squat). I don't know if it's "supposed" to be one way or the other. I'd think it depends on the person.
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2009, 02:30:31 AM » |
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Some people are just simply built better for Deadlifts than Squats. Just like some people will favour the Sumo Deadlift over the Regular version. I myself am also able to Squat more than I am able to deadlift, but I was formerly 310lbs so I think that's part of the reason I had some decently strong legs to start with
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2009, 04:32:07 AM » |
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as goldie sed people are different and we exersice different,(some likes deadlift max lifts but never atemt a squat max lift) as for me my squat max is 160kg 5 reps but my deadlift is 210kg 1 rep ,this is posebly because I have a bad right knee and cant do the deep squats with that kinda weight no more but on the deadlift I dont bend my knee as mutch.
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2009, 04:40:27 AM » |
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Unless you've just been introduced to deadlifts, the deadlift is supposed to be higher, even if you're not that good at it.
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2009, 09:36:15 AM » |
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Unless you've just been introduced to deadlifts, the deadlift is supposed to be higher, even if you're not that good at it.
thats what i thought. but why is that. your legs take the majority of the weight in the squat (thats a pretty big mucle group) and you legs then your lower back take the brunt of it in the DL. Whats the deal  it seems like your legs should be able to do more weight. FYI i know that DL's use both legs and back with majority on back. squats are the other way around. |
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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2009, 10:02:53 AM » |
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If you look at the pro powerlifters.. their squat is usually much higher than their dead. Brent Mikesell, has a squat of over 1000, yet his deadlift is only around 800. Some people have legs stronger than their fingers. I have deadlifted 365, but only squatted 325. It all depends on how you deadlift (conventional vs sumo/traditional) and how strong your fingers are.
With deadlifts, you don't use straps. If you cant hold it, you can't lift it.
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2009, 08:10:26 AM » |
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With deadlifts, you don't use straps. If you cant hold it, you can't lift it.
Definetly Agree. Also it gives you huge forearms |
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2009, 01:30:33 PM » |
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i dont know, i prefer squats than deadlift and my squat is a lot higher i squat around 253 - 264 lbs doing between 12 and 8 reps and my deadlift is not even close to that maybe thats because i do deadlifts at the end of my leg workout and by that time im pretty fatigued
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2009, 03:18:35 PM » |
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Your Squat is higher than your deadlift because you're probably doing half squats. Try going truly parallel, which means the top of your knee being parallel to top surface of the legs at the hip joint.
This is a common mistake because people say "your thighs should be parallel" and what does that actually mean? What if a person has huge hamstrings? He would be doing quarter squats!
There are also hip-dominant people and quad-dominant people, but I didn't state this as your cause since I don't think it's the case. The reason being that 99.9% of the people I see at the gym do half squats.
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Mark the O
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2009, 03:29:35 PM » |
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Your Squat is higher than your deadlift because you're probably doing half squats. Try going truly parallel, which means the top of your knee being parallel to top surface of the legs at the hip joint.
This is a common mistake because people say "your thighs should be parallel" and what does that actually mean? What if a person has huge hamstrings? He would be doing quarter squats!
There are also hip-dominant people and quad-dominant people, but I didn't state this as your cause since I don't think it's the case. The reason being that 99.9% of the people I see at the gym do half squats.
No half squats here. Form is pretty high on my list of thing to perfect. |
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2009, 04:27:36 PM » |
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Your Squat is higher than your deadlift because you're probably doing half squats. Try going truly parallel, which means the top of your knee being parallel to top surface of the legs at the hip joint.
This is a common mistake because people say "your thighs should be parallel" and what does that actually mean? What if a person has huge hamstrings? He would be doing quarter squats!
There are also hip-dominant people and quad-dominant people, but I didn't state this as your cause since I don't think it's the case. The reason being that 99.9% of the people I see at the gym do half squats.
i don't understand why you shouldn't go past parallel, though. i feel much more pressure on my knees when not going past 90º than when i do. |
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2009, 06:21:50 PM » |
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You are right Cookie. At the lower portion of the squat, the glutes take most of the work. The more you push your hips back, the more stress on the glutes - the more you push your knee forward, the more share of stress your quad and knee will take.
I don't know, maybe I'm still chicken out on the Dl - I can lift it but I don't know if my back have a good arch or not, so I still don't want to put more weight. With squat the more weight I put on the more I cheat (still below parallel but not ass to grass). I think my Squat and DL are equal after all.
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2009, 08:30:59 PM » |
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I go past parallel. I know most people prefer just parallel so that's why I said what I said. I agree with Cookie that by passing parallel you will get a better workout.
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