Jetdav
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« on: October 26, 2009, 04:30:14 AM » |
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Ive been doing weights for about 2years and got more serious over the last 10months. We all know by now bench isnt the way to prove how strong you really are i do know that before anyone points and laughs and thinks im sterotypical haha...but lets face it when strength is tested between friends or its in conversation the question is "so how much can you max bench" and obviously we take pride in saying 200lbs or whatever and youre weight being the highest and you actualy feel like your work has paid off. Im 145lbs (66kg) and 5.9ft. Max bench is 80kg roughly and i normaly have my first bench sets 5 reps of 67kg and 3 sets of that with 1min-1.30 break depending how good i felt at the end of the set. After that i do flys 15kg each and 6 reps 3 sets then 3 sets of dumbell presses with 15kg (i cant fit more weight on as i do all of my workouts in my house  ) and i do 12 15 12 of that to mix it up a little. Yes i do these in different order when i do them and i usualy throw in 3 sets of 52kg doing 10 reps in between some of that. I just wonder if anyone can recomend any bench workouts specific to actualy benching that might have worked for them that i can at least try and see if i see a significant improvement, thanks in advance to everyone that reads and answers.
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Mr.Awesome
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2009, 07:40:57 AM » |
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I got atleast one tip that helped me past my platou and it bursted me along a little while, I started doing pushups and dips (can do flyes in it too when you get realy good  ) in a "therapy master". (therapy master is 2 adjustable ropes hanging down with loops in the end witch I plase my hands in and leggs on a bench so I get the regular angel on the push upp.) (can be made at home) This way you work out alot of Stabilisator mucles in the shoulders chest and arms, even some core too. !!! take note that you should have a friend or an pt helping you the first times so you dont strain any thing!!! first time I did it I lost balance and (almost) strained my shoulder but I had a friend helping me so I didnt hurt any thing but some pride  hrhr Also try and alternate youre bench rutine mix the order of youre exersises and try maby lose some weight and do more reps. And Good luck 
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DreamusEnto
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2009, 07:45:44 AM » |
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In Bench motion the Muscle Working is Triceps and Chest! Try Doing Dumbell press on Incline bench Or Bench on Incline bench. They Helps you Use the Chest Muscle Outside them you're using!  I do that on the gym to Improve my Bench. Have been working for me!  And Triceps, Do Triceps Draw, Dips, Or Warm up at the bench without any Weights on and keep the Grip smaller! That will Work your Triceps more!  Or Push-Ups as Mr.Awesome said!  // Ento
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2009, 08:26:44 AM » |
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Ive been doing weights for about 2years and got more serious over the last 10months. We all know by now bench isnt the way to prove how strong you really are i do know that before anyone points and laughs and thinks im sterotypical haha...but lets face it when strength is tested between friends or its in conversation the question is "so how much can you max bench" and obviously we take pride in saying 200lbs or whatever and youre weight being the highest and you actualy feel like your work has paid off. Im 145lbs (66kg) and 5.9ft. Max bench is 80kg roughly and i normaly have my first bench sets 5 reps of 67kg and 3 sets of that with 1min-1.30 break depending how good i felt at the end of the set. After that i do flys 15kg each and 6 reps 3 sets then 3 sets of dumbell presses with 15kg (i cant fit more weight on as i do all of my workouts in my house  ) and i do 12 15 12 of that to mix it up a little. Yes i do these in different order when i do them and i usualy throw in 3 sets of 52kg doing 10 reps in between some of that. I just wonder if anyone can recomend any bench workouts specific to actualy benching that might have worked for them that i can at least try and see if i see a significant improvement, thanks in advance to everyone that reads and answers. Increase your mass i.e. eat more.
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Jetdav
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2009, 08:27:37 PM » |
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Alright thanks for the input guys!
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2009, 11:58:57 AM » |
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Alright thanks for the input guys!
your similar height and weight to me, but im not really into maxes anymore after finding out doing maxes too young is bad for your joints as well as them not really being good for gaining muscle HOWEVER I would...(in the same workout) Warmup Then gradually work your way up the weight doing multiple reps e.g. 55kg x 10, 60 x 7 etc Then when you get to 75kg ish go 75kg x 1, 77.5kg x1, 80kg x 1 THEN 82.5kg x 1 
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Age: 16 Height: 5"8.5 Weight: 63kg/137lbs Working out since 4 March 09 Max Bench - 73 kg / 161 pounds ***Goals*** Get my abs more defined Get 6 pack more visible ( same sort of thing) Get BIG  ****** And im not flexing in my pic  And it was taken 5 months into my lifting
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2009, 02:49:48 PM » |
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When i read your post again i Realise.. As Jetdav says.. Warm up.. When you get's near your Max weight.. It's onl 1-2reps. More then that will not increase any muscle.. Just make your weaker for the Moment.. Try warm up with the Bar first.. 10reps. Then 45-50 maby 55 x 10reps, 60-65 5reps. Then do 65-70 5reps x 5sets.. So by maxing is not giving muscles.. It's the Rep.. Take a weight that you feel you can take 10-15reps.  And you will be better..  Once again.. MAXING IS NOT GOOD WITH MULTIPLY REPS! // Ento
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2009, 02:58:38 PM » |
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Once again.. MAXING IS NOT GOOD WITH MULTIPLY REPS!
// Ento
Just to clear something here - maxing is done with 1 rep, and 1 rep only. Doing multiple reps isn't maxing, at least not in the sense discussed in this thread. Training to failure is somewhat similar, but the formulae used to calculate maxes out of multiple repetition sets are often inaccurate and don't represent the real deal (I'm willing to bet no one here can move their estimated 1 rep maximum on the bench, if that maximum was calculated from a 12-8 rep standpoint. Heavy weight is heavy weight, and it forces the body to react in a different way than when a moderate load is used.)
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2009, 03:50:44 PM » |
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To increase the bench.. work the muscles that requires the bench. Lats, Triceps, traps, and chest. Also, your workout routine should looks something liek this on your bench day.. Well, this is my old routine, I changed it up (I don't know what it will be from now on, seeing as I am following my trainers workouts) My old routine was this:
Bench: 135x8, 155x6 185x5 205x3 215x2 or 225x2 or max out for 1 rep.
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Rotate between these.. start at 1, go to 2, and then 3. then start over the laps.
Flyes: (lap1) 30x12... (lap2) 35x12... (lap3) 35x12 Inclined Dumbbell Bench: (lap1) 60x8... (lap2) 65x8... (lap3) 70x3 Standing Dumbbell Shoulderpress: (lap1) 50x8... (lap2) 55x8... (lap3) 55x8 And finally, Bodyweight dips: (lap1) BWx15... (lap2) BWx15... (lap3) BWx15 If you can do dumbbells with these, go for it, but I find these are extremely difficult after the presses
After your laps are finished: Every 3 weeks do Floorpress. Get a powerrack, I set it to 22, just enough so you can do the lockout phase of the bench, only lift it 3-4 inches.
225x5 245x5 275x5 295x5 315x5, and if I can, 335x5
Then maybe do some Reverse Tricep Curls on the cable machine... But if you still have energy to do very much more, you didn't work hard enough.
That was my routine. Obviously the weight is fitted to me, if you can do more than me, do it. If you cant, lower it. but you shouldnt over work yourself, and EAT WITHIN 10 MINUTES OF FINISHING YOUR WORKOUTS
For bench, week 1: max out. week 2: do partial movements. week 3: do as much weight as possible for 5 reps. Only do 5 reps. Week 4: Do explosions, 5 reps lighter weight than last week. Week 5: repeat week 1, Week6, repeat week 2 etc and so on.
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2009, 03:51:23 PM » |
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Oh, and I bench tuesdays and fridays, squat mondays and deadlift thursdays.
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Age:14,Weight:160,Height5'7''[Bench:240(109kg), Squat:325(147.4kg),Clean:210(95kg),Deadlift:365(166kg)] Goals:(by June 9th 2010)[Bench:265(120kg)+,Squat:405(184kg)+, Clean:245(111kg)+,Deadlift:430(195kg)] Long Term Goals:Beat Dodothebird at being the best 70yr old breakdancer
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