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RatedRudy
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« on: November 03, 2009, 02:28:35 PM »

Well I been going to the gym now for like 4 weeks, doing full bodyworkouts since I'am a beginner and all, and the exercises I always do are

1. pullups/chinups
2. dips
3. seated military press
4. bench press
5. squats
6. t-rows
7. knee raises(for abs)

Every now and then, I do some preacher curls ,chest flys, calf raises. so is that good enough for a beginner? or do I need to add more, I do 3 sets for each exercise with 8-12 reps. btw usually I do the full body workouts 2 times a week since Iam sore for at least 2 days, sometimes i may pull in a 3rd workout session in the week but rarely.

NOTE: I always do all these exercises with slow & good form which makes my total workout in the day like go for like an 1 hour and 15 minutes, I always put like 1 minutes or 2 between sets to rest.
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2009, 02:41:07 PM »

Your upper body is covered pretty well, but your lower body part has its flaws. Deadlifts should surely come into this routine, and maybe (although I am aware this would prolong the routine) some lunges. Preacher curls, flys and calf work are pretty much not necessary at these stages (except maybe calf work, it's always better to start doing your calves early Wink).
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2009, 02:50:17 PM »

Your upper body is covered pretty well, but your lower body part has its flaws. Deadlifts should surely come into this routine, and maybe (although I am aware this would prolong the routine) some lunges. Preacher curls, flys and calf work are pretty much not necessary at these stages (except maybe calf work, it's always better to start doing your calves early Wink).
yeah i though so, iam scared  of the deadlifts though because i know thats one of the most dangerious exercises that can hurt your lower back and spine , i mean, it feels weird trying to do it at the gym, iam not even sure if iam doing it right when i try it, i seen plenty of videos on how to do it but still not sure if iam doing it right, i never had any back problems in my life, iam 19 years old, about to turn 20, a lottta ppl say the deadlift is almost the same concept as a squat with going down and up, except your holding the barbeel with your hands now, not sure if thats true. also iam scared what weight to start with on a deadlift, i don't wanna put too much and then risk injury so yeah.
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2009, 02:55:19 PM »

Well, you probably DO know what you're missing, seeing all those videos on deadlifting, but probably don't understand that the risk of injury is neglectable when done at a slow pace (and that means not jumping to crazy weight right away), if you're of course, a normal, healthy person without prior lower back problems. Not doing deadlifts can cause even more problems with your routine not developing your posterior chain right, which leads to lower back, hip and knee problems later in life (I probably shouldn't have written that, now I'll scare you off from bodybuilding at all Tongue). But seriously, you're probably doing more damage to yourself benching and dipping (people tend to think they know how to perform those lifts, while the deadlift, which is, in my opinion, the most natural of all those movements, is perceived as "difficult to perform") than you'd do to yourself starting out deadlifting. Have someone at the gym check your form up - someone will surely know what to look for. Wink
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2009, 03:01:36 PM »

I'm a beginner at Deadlift..

But my trainer tells me to allways look straight forward or up in the "sky"

So you don't will Bend the Back..

First time i tried Deadlift i did wrong and i just Stratched when i got home and never had problem since then..

Think off:
*Use your chest like: Here it's me ruling!
*Keep your head and eyes high pointed!
*Keep the feets flat to the ground!
And just so you know.. Smiley
Some people does the Sumo-tequnic. (I does that one Smiley)
And some the normal.. People are good at diffrent things and people be able to make something eaisier then other things.. Smiley

Try to find someone who Does mush Deadlift at the Gym and ask he/she to watch if your're doing right.. Smiley

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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2009, 03:04:33 PM »

Well, you probably DO know what you're missing, seeing all those videos on deadlifting, but probably don't understand that the risk of injury is neglectable when done at a slow pace (and that means not jumping to crazy weight right away), if you're of course, a normal, healthy person without prior lower back problems. Not doing deadlifts can cause even more problems with your routine not developing your posterior chain right, which leads to lower back, hip and knee problems later in life (I probably shouldn't have written that, now I'll scare you off from bodybuilding at all Tongue). But seriously, you're probably doing more damage to yourself benching and dipping (people tend to think they know how to perform those lifts, while the deadlift, which is, in my opinion, the most natural of all those movements, is perceived as "difficult to perform") than you'd do to yourself starting out deadlifting. Have someone at the gym check your form up - someone will surely know what to look for. Wink

Agree!
Deadlifts are great for the whole body: Legs, Shoulders, Abs, Back... All of the body!
And Deadlifting is allso good to know later in life, If maby trying to lift a rock.
Great to know how to lift then, Without get pain or such.. Smiley

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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2009, 03:16:30 PM »

Well, you probably DO know what you're missing, seeing all those videos on deadlifting, but probably don't understand that the risk of injury is neglectable when done at a slow pace (and that means not jumping to crazy weight right away), if you're of course, a normal, healthy person without prior lower back problems. Not doing deadlifts can cause even more problems with your routine not developing your posterior chain right, which leads to lower back, hip and knee problems later in life (I probably shouldn't have written that, now I'll scare you off from bodybuilding at all Tongue). But seriously, you're probably doing more damage to yourself benching and dipping (people tend to think they know how to perform those lifts, while the deadlift, which is, in my opinion, the most natural of all those movements, is perceived as "difficult to perform") than you'd do to yourself starting out deadlifting. Have someone at the gym check your form up - someone will surely know what to look for. Wink
hmm never though of it that way, that the bench and dips could be harder to do than a deadlift, if thats the case,iam more confident to do the deadlift more than ever and train & master  it. also seeing if i don't do deadlifts, it would cause me to have problems down the road when iam older makes a lot of sense, i need do deadlifts for sure then, thanks
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2009, 03:35:38 PM »

also btw, should i do both pull ups and chin ups, or only one and if one, does it matter which one, also at my gym, theres an assistned dip/chin machine and has a hammer grip style to pull urself up, but not sure if this is considered a pull up or chin up
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2009, 03:37:06 PM »

also btw, should i do both pull ups and chin ups, or only one and if one, does it matter which one, also at my gym, theres an assistned dip/chin machine and has a hammer grip style to pull urself up, but not sure if this is considered a pull up or chin up
Change it up - do pullups one workout, chinups the next, hammer (neutral) grip the workout after that. Each have their benefits, which have been thoroughly discussed on the forum before (just search for "pullups chinups difference", something like that). Wink
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2009, 03:39:04 PM »

also btw, should i do both pull ups and chin ups, or only one and if one, does it matter which one, also at my gym, theres an assistned dip/chin machine and has a hammer grip style to pull urself up, but not sure if this is considered a pull up or chin up
Change it up - do pullups one workout, chinups the next, hammer (neutral) grip the workout after that. Each have their benefits, which have been thoroughly discussed on the forum before (just search for "pullups chinups difference", something like that). Wink
o ok thanks, will do  Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2009, 02:46:27 PM »

Hope it help'd.. Smiley

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