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« on: November 04, 2009, 05:37:26 AM »

Hello guys. .  This is my first time posting on this site, and i've been a huge fan of scooby's videos on youtube for about half a year.
I was thinking, since i have diabetes and all, does lower insulin levels help maintain higher weight lost, and vice versa? I am really confused about this sort of stuff and i hope to understand it a little better to aid my workout and nutrition regimes.  I am 17 y/o btw. .

Another matter.  When i go to the gym and do heavy exercises such as Dumbbell shrugs for traps, and deadlift, all of which includes finger strength to hold the bar, i find that my fingers usually give out due to the heavy weight rather than my traps first, or my back. . .  I'm hoping for a video which shows how to increase finger strengths. .  Even a 1 minute video showing some exercises will be nice. .

Thanks in advance. .  Undecided

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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2009, 10:23:15 AM »

You are diabetic, your doctor prescribed insulin, TAKE YOUR INSULIN AS DIRECTED! Dont mess around.

And no lower insulin does not mean more weight loss as you put it.
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2009, 10:41:35 AM »

Hello guys. .  This is my first time posting on this site, and i've been a huge fan of scooby's videos on youtube for about half a year.
I was thinking, since i have diabetes and all, does lower insulin levels help maintain higher weight lost, and vice versa? I am really confused about this sort of stuff and i hope to understand it a little better to aid my workout and nutrition regimes.  I am 17 y/o btw. .

Another matter.  When i go to the gym and do heavy exercises such as Dumbbell shrugs for traps, and deadlift, all of which includes finger strength to hold the bar, i find that my fingers usually give out due to the heavy weight rather than my traps first, or my back. . .  I'm hoping for a video which shows how to increase finger strengths. .  Even a 1 minute video showing some exercises will be nice. .

Thanks in advance. .  Undecided



Hey man, I can't be of much help in the insulin information department, but what I can suggest is getting some wrist straps. These go around your wrists and have a strap that comes off of them that basically ties around the dumbbell/barbell/pull up bar/etc. to prevent your wrists or hands giving out before you can fully work the targeted muscle.

If you just google "weightlifting wrist straps" you should find lots of them, just do a little research and find which one best suits you.
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2009, 05:45:31 PM »

Welcome Cheesy
Ok, you need to talk to your doctor, often insuline dosage changes slightly when you work out, lower insuline dosages may be necessary to avoid the possiblity of becoming hypoglycemic.
If you want to know more about the mechanics of diabetes & working out, I know a good deal about it, and know a powerlifter with type 1 diabetes, so let me know Smiley

But if you haven´t allready you need to find out how & if you need to change the Insuline IE dosage Smiley




As for finger strength Finger strength video:

http://www.ehow.com/video_2356493_build-finger-strength-combat-sports.html
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2009, 04:30:06 AM »

Thanks guys.  .  I watched the video about finger strength and can't wait to try it out. .

As for the part about diabeties and insulin, i was just wondering if excessive insulin will cause your weight to balloon.  .  because i started following scooby's 5-6 meals a day nutrition and every time after i eat i have to inject a small dose. .  so i'm not too sure if im doing it wrongly, and injecting too much short-acting insulin(i cant remember the name. .  its either insulatard or actrapid. . .  but its quite short acting. .  around 3-4 hours).  Any information regarding this matter will be greatly appreciated. .
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2009, 04:57:45 AM »

Its actrapid Smiley

Ok, you can gain weight when you first start insulin simply because your bloodsugarlevels are normal, and now your body processes carbs & calories like a person without diabetes.  So you need to find the balance between exercise, diet and insulin.

If you know yourself & your diabetes so well that you are able to regulate this yourself thats good(didn´t mention how long it is since you were diagnosed with it and started on insulin) if not I would consult a docor whoever one gets help to this from where you live)

Did a quick search on some medical sites and found some groundrules(was easier than grabbing my textbook and copying everything Wink )

    * Make sure your doctor has approved your exercise plan in advance!
    *  Do not inject insulin immediately before exercise
    * Do not inject insulin into large muscle groups you will be using during exercise - either use your tummy, or wait one hour after injecting into muscles
    * Check your blood glucose before, during, and after exercise
    * Have a carbohydrate snack before exercising
    * Know that exercise burns glycogen from muscles and liver -- these glycogen stores will need to be replenished.  Be sure to eat after working out! 
    * Be alert to nighttime lows after working out.  When glycogen stores are depleted during exercise, your liver may rob glucose from your bloodstream causing lows up to 12 hours after exercising.  Having a pre- and post-exercise snack can help avoid delayed hypoglycemia reactions.
    * Do not work out close to bedtime.
    * Do not work out in really hot weather.  Hot weather can increase how fast insulin is absorbed and cause lows.
    * Do not use saunas or hot tubs -- both can increase blood circulation and cause insulin to work faster in the body which may result in hypoglycemia (the same is true for hot baths after injecting insulin).
 




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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2009, 10:56:23 PM »

Hmm. .  I was dianosed with diabetes when i was 5 months old . .  and it's been 16 and a half years.

It's almost always hot where i live. . (singapore) and when i work out its always in an air conditioned gym, excluding the walk i have to take to walk there, which includes walking under the sun.

And you mentioned before and after workout, i have to consume carbohydrate meals. .  are those before-after carbohydrate meals included in the 6 meals-a-day routine?(2 out of 6 meals)

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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2009, 04:45:23 AM »

One more matter. .  i'm sorry for so many questions. .  i watched a video about artificial sweeteners in protein powders and how it is bad for diabetics.  Can anybody tell me the harmful effects of these three Artificial sweeteners: Aspertame, acesulfame and sucralose on diabetes?

Thanks. .
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2009, 06:48:12 AM »

Same with these as with everything else in the world, depends on the individual, you may react differently than another Smiley

Aspertame= makes it extremely difficult to maintain a stable bloodsugarlevel, it can make it be impossible to control

acesulfame= Is safe, only trouble is it is easy to use to much as its in so many artificial sweeteners.

sucralose=Can increase longterm bloodsugarlevels, and reduced control, but only found one small study about it. Still seems to be debated alot.

When it comes to your diet, you really should have help from a nutritionist as everyone is different.
The norm seems to be a light meal before workout consisting of carbs( a carbohydrate bar for instance), then have one of the meals after. Always bring with you a couple of energy bars, to have as backup.
My friend who is diabetic & powerlifter has a small satchel with some energy bars with him at all times when he works out, the second he feels the slightest symptoms of hypoglycemia he grabs one.

That said, I cant tell you how to build a diet just the basic idea behind it, I´m just a nurse not a nutritionist or a doctor. Also, don´t focus to much on the 6 meal plan yet, if you have to eat you have to eat. For us without diabetes its a matter of a few extra calories, for you who do its critical to have a good nutritional plan Cheesy

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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2009, 07:50:07 AM »

Ok. .  thank you for the excellent informations. .  you really helped me gain a whole new perspective during nutrition. . .  :D
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2009, 08:09:28 AM »

You are welcome, glad to be of help Smiley Anything else just ask or send me a message Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2009, 11:20:07 AM »

Having had diabetes for 21 of my 23 years I can tell you that your blood glucose level does affect your performance(profuse sweating is the most noticeable), but not your results.

And your insulin you should take as needed, again that only releases energy from your cells, if you don't do that you'll get a high blood sugar and find it really hard to work out.

I'm running a 16.6 glucose level(bad sleep last night) and on my exercise bike(sweating buckets) as I write this. If my blood glucose was lower this would be alot easier.



At any rate as a diabetic your fitness training should come second to your diabetes control, always. If you die thirty years premature due to having shit control of your diabetes it doesn't really matter how good our corpse looks.

EDIT: also should mention if you're running a low blood glucose level (like below 4.5) you'll find you have really weak muscles so watch out for that too.
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2009, 01:17:53 PM »

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At any rate as a diabetic your fitness training should come second to your diabetes control, always. If you die thirty years premature due to having shit control of your diabetes it doesn't really matter how good our corpse looks.

EDIT: also should mention if you're running a low blood glucose level (like below 4.5) you'll find you have really weak muscles so watch out for that too.

Good advice, plus karma. Its a matter of finding the balance between diet/workout/insulin, wich is not always that easy.
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2010, 12:02:37 PM »

Used to take around 78 units now im on 28 thanks to exercise and proper nutrition(scooby<3), if you're going to eat less and exercise you will have to reduce your dose naturally, but do consult your doctor and make sure your glucose is on track! It is not worth ruining your organs to loose weight/bulk up.
Best of luck;)
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