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Question: Should Scooby do a video on the clean and press for shoulders?
Excellent idea! - 31 (40.3%)
Good idea! - 13 (16.9%)
Okay idea. - 12 (15.6%)
Bad idea. - 9 (11.7%)
Very bad idea! - 12 (15.6%)
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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2009, 05:30:26 PM »

Height is mostly determined by the nutrition of your mom a few months before you were born. There isn't much you can do to change it.
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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2009, 09:55:27 PM »

I know, my parents are docs. I just wanna make sure I do the right things so I grow those inches!!!
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    « Reply #17 on: August 03, 2009, 11:46:53 PM »

    Needyourlovin, if you want to reach your genetic potential of height - make sure you eat PLENTY of a balanced diet (i'm not necessarily saying put on fat, but don't be afraid of it) and get as much sleep as possible - preferably a good 8-9hrs++.

    I say this because it is normally one or the other above which ends up stunting teenager's growth.
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    « Reply #18 on: August 04, 2009, 02:55:13 AM »

    Scooby won't even make a video for deadlifts, so a clean and press video is only going to be a suggestion Tongue And that's understandable since his main goal is to show simple exercises everybody can do at home themselves. And unless you drop the weight gently, you won't be allowed to do cleans in a gym even Grin
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    « Reply #19 on: August 04, 2009, 02:01:04 PM »

    Needyourlovin, if you want to reach your genetic potential of height - make sure you eat PLENTY of a balanced diet (i'm not necessarily saying put on fat, but don't be afraid of it) and get as much sleep as possible - preferably a good 8-9hrs++.

    I say this because it is normally one or the other above which ends up stunting teenager's growth.

    The problem is I am a smart guy at school (really, no boasting) and I train basketball. That has recently narrowed my sleeping hours cuase I gotta work hard. Last semester I was normally going to bed after midnight and waking up at 6 am. Don't worry about the diet, I still drink whole milk and stuff like that; however, I won't eat things like cheesburgers, pizza, cookies, etc.
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    « Reply #20 on: August 11, 2009, 03:46:02 AM »

    the clean and press is a great exercise. you can build explosive strength and power with it. i don't see how you can say the risks outweigh the benefits? the clean and press works so many muscles and its great for muscle development. in my opinion, get the technique down and start doing them, it isnt too hard anyway unless you've got a really bad memory or poor co-ordination, if thats the case, you shouldn't be touching weights Cheesy
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    « Reply #21 on: August 23, 2009, 04:47:20 PM »

    The Clean and Press looks as though it goes against every principle Scooby preaches in his exercise videos: slow, controlled form. 

    By contrast, the Clean and Press is an explosive, jerky exercise whose emphasis is on 'vigourous. . .  jumping' (see execution instructions here: xxx: xxx: exrx. net/WeightExercises/OlympicLifts/Clean. html).
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    « Reply #22 on: September 07, 2009, 09:14:52 AM »

    I personally love the clean, but am not a big fan of the press  Cheesy.  although sometimes to show off ill do the clean and press with like 155 when everyone else is struggling to just clean 95  Grin
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    « Reply #23 on: September 14, 2009, 11:10:19 AM »

    not a fan.. for me i think it is unsafe specially to your wrists and back. we are not power lifters, we are bodybuilders.
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    « Reply #24 on: September 14, 2009, 11:13:22 AM »

    not a fan.. for me i think it is unsafe specially to your wrists and back. we are not power lifters, we are bodybuilders.
    Actually, power clean is most useful to Olympic lifters. Powerlifters focus on developing strength needed to lift maximal weights on Squat, Deadlift and Bench Press. Wink
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    « Reply #25 on: November 09, 2009, 09:11:39 AM »

    I voted bad.  One of the things I remember from my childhood was doing this very thing in a friends garage.  He was very heavy and did it no problem.  I had the strength, but not the bodyweight!  The bar ended up almost taking me with it, back down the other (backside) of my body.  Now as an adult I love doing military presses, but for a beginner clean and press is very dangerous and not really necessary for bodybuilding.  It's not much different than someone trying to do squats by themselves in their basement.  You need a trainer there to correct your form and keep your ego in check.
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    « Reply #26 on: November 09, 2009, 02:38:50 PM »

    I voted bad.  One of the things I remember from my childhood was doing this very thing in a friends garage.  He was very heavy and did it no problem.  I had the strength, but not the bodyweight!  The bar ended up almost taking me with it, back down the other (backside) of my body.  Now as an adult I love doing military presses, but for a beginner clean and press is very dangerous and not really necessary for bodybuilding.  It's not much different than someone trying to do squats by themselves in their basement.  You need a trainer there to correct your form and keep your ego in check.

    I HAVE fallen over while doing these.  I did it with 135, I threw the weight back/up, instead of just up, the weight fell right over me as I collapsed.  scariest .5 second of my life.  but I had big plates on, soo it just bounced over me, and didnt actually hit me.
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    « Reply #27 on: February 23, 2010, 07:11:40 PM »

    i dont like the clean and press...
    i like to do the clean and jerk. its more fun for me Wink
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    « Reply #28 on: February 23, 2010, 07:22:21 PM »

    Heres a fun fact, olympic lifters have one of the lowest injury rates among people who do resistance training. And also lower injury rates han many other sports. So to say the clean is unsafe is silly  Smiley

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    « Reply #29 on: February 23, 2010, 08:42:10 PM »

    Heres a fun fact, olympic lifters have one of the lowest injury rates among people who do resistance training. And also lower injury rates han many other sports. So to say the clean is unsafe is silly  Smiley

    Hamill, B. Relative Safety of Weightlifting and Weight Training. Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research, 8(1):53-57. 1994

    Stone, M. H., A. C. Fry, M. Ritchie, L. Stoessel-Ross, and J. L. Marsit. Injury potential and safety aspects of weightlifting movements. Strength and Conditioning. June: 15-21. 1994.



    True olympic weightlifters may have one of the lowest rates of injuries compared to other resistance sports, but did they look how serious the actual injuries may be not how often they occur.

    In some resistance training you may get overuse and muscular strains for say 1 injury for every 100 hundred hourse of training. In olympic weightlifting you may get say 1 injury for evey 1000 hours of training but these injuries may include rotator cuff tears, joint injuries and hernias. These can put you out for a long time. There is no room for error when lifting your body weight above your head.

    Also these olympic weightlifters are coached by professional weightlifting coaches. Did they say how often these injuries occur when people attempt to teach themselves the lifts like most people who dont have access to clubes or coaches.

    What did this guy do for this injury to occur. He is very lucky to be almost recovered after all the rehab.

     <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI0Zl-tMRf4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI0Zl-tMRf4</a>

    The only time you should be attempting any form of olympic lifts is if you have coaching or belong to a olympic weightlifting club. The olympic lifts are too technical to learn from internet instructions or videos. Its like teaching yourself a martial art from video and not attending to an actual class. It just does not work.

    If you dont have actual coaching dont attempt the olympic lifts, as they are far too dangerous. Its better to do other less technical forms of resistance traiing.


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