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« on: July 16, 2009, 10:45:29 PM » |
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Right now I have a friend who is going out for volleyball, and the doctor said she has to get a lot more knee muscle if she wants to play. Now she will not step foot into a fitness center (even though the one in our town is free), And I'm basically just wondering if this will affect her in volleyball. Like me, she is 14, and I think she said she was around 18% body fat, 5'3 and I'm guessing about 125 pounds (roughly)... Now I have been squatting and doing lunges and running for a while, so i think my knees are fine, but i am not sure about hers. The doctor specifically said "You need to gain a lot more knee strength if you want to play this year." What can she do if she wont go into the gym (she already has been biking but im not sure how long how far and how vigorously), and if she doesn't get the strength what are the consequences? For some reason the doctor signed the form so she is going to play, even if she shouldnt.
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2009, 10:55:37 AM » |
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I guess this is up to her. It comes down to whether she wants to or not, if she feels it's necessary to increase strength in that area then she'll do so how ever she feels comfortable.
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2009, 01:52:28 PM » |
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I tore my MCL a few years ago (I just HAD to win in a judo match against someone a lot bigger than me) and the physical therapist had me do specific knee exercises. These can all be done at home. Leg extensions--Scooby has a video here, at the end he shows how you can do them at home --->
Scooby shows how to do them at home with dumbbells, but for improving her knee strength, she won't need very heavy weight. I'd recommend that she buy ankle weights, maybe 2 or 2.5 lbs. each, and do leg extensions with those. **HIGH REPS**  Skateboard squats or my version, playground ball squats, are also good. She needs to be careful not to bend her knees all the way--not to 90 degrees, maybe just 80 degrees. Again, low weight, high reps. And I don't know what to call these; use the ankle weights. Sit on the floor with one knee bent and the other straight; lean back slightly and support yourself with your hands on the floor behind you. Lift the straight leg up, keeping it straight, until your thighs are parallel (keep the bent leg bent the whole time, it's just for support) and then lower it again. Do NOT let your leg rest on the floor; hover it a second and lift it up again. Take turns with the legs, low weight, high reps. The physical therapist told me to do these 3 times a week, each lift at a moderate pace; not fast, but not really slow either. And like in regular weight lifting, do enough reps till failure. If she doesn't get her leg strength up, she'll likely get injured. My knee injury was relatively minor but it hurt like hell, and took me about 3 months until I was back to full strength, and another 3 months before it was pain-free. A little bit of preparation is a LOT better than dealing with a knee injury!
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2009, 08:49:04 AM » |
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2009, 04:39:00 PM » |
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I had my share of knee and ankle injuries. The solution is to build stronger leg muscles and to do balance exercises. To build stronger leg muscles she can do lunges, squats, calf raises, and leg raises. She can do balance exercises on the floor, but they are much more effective on an unstable base like a wobble disc or board. I do 2 x 20 reps per leg of single-leg squats (no weights) on a wobble disc 3 times a week. This is what a wobble disc is like: http://www.physioroom.com/catalog/Wobble_Cushions/3184.htmlIt's a cheap and useful piece of exercise equipment to keep around the house. Also elastic bands are useful for strengtening exercises. http://www.physioroom.com/product/Mueller_ExerBand_76cm_/2026/36105.htmlNone of the above require going to the gym. They can be done at home while watching videos on youtube. -d
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2009, 10:50:17 PM » |
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dani had a good one ^^ lunges without weight are still very effective, i have fun doing them for about 100 meters when i do them without weight..
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2009, 11:28:01 AM » |
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Bulgarian Split Squats are another option. -Sun
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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2009, 01:35:27 PM » |
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As well as strength make sure she is working on flexibility/mobility of her whole lower body. Try not to just strengthen her quads once again train her whole body from waist down. If anything make sure she develops her vastus medialis, has decent footwear and perhaps take a knee wrap.
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2009, 01:20:39 AM » |
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For strength around the knees I think leg extensions are best. If she's not willing to go to the gym for whatever reason, guess she can try lunges or something, but she will not get the same benefit as those are mostly targeting different areas of the leg. Leg extensions will really build up the muscles around the knees, I know from experience.
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2009, 10:37:15 AM » |
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if she doesn't get the strength what are the consequences? Only the Strong Survive!Training Tips from Olympian Kerri Walsh "Olympic Gold Medalst" Beach Volleyball. What are the 5 "Must Do" exercises for your sport? Pilates- We need to have very strong core muscles (abs, back, etc) and Pilates is the very best workout for this. I love it! (Also See: What's the Best Pilates Exercise for the Abdominals?) Squats- Our legs need to be strong and able to stay that way throughout a tough tournament. Squats are essential. Shoulder exercises- Grab a band and go through a lot of resistance exercises to protect your shoulder and keep it strong. I've had three shoulder surgeries in my career so my "band" comes with me everywhere. Cleans- I love cleans because they require good form, and help work on both strength and dynamic movement. Good form is essential, so be sure to get your form down before trying to lift heavy. Lunges- This is a great exercise for the legs and tooshie. I live my life in a Speedo bikini, so this exercise is very important to me (I need to look good in my uniform!)
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2009, 05:54:34 PM » |
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Cool ty! If I talk to her anytime soon ill tell her about those.. She says shes going to Physical Therapy though, and I havnt seen her in Volleyball yet. She might be playing, but I'm not sure
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2009, 08:18:28 AM » |
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Some people just dont like the whole idea of "working out" but your friend probably really does want to play volleyball. What I would suggest is doing a volleyball specific workout with her to help her get the leg strength without doing any traditional exercises. A good volleyball workout would be:
20 minutes of interval sprints 20 minutes of jump training
There are a lot of videos on youtube showing how to do plyometrics (jump training) but its basically where you jump on and off boxes. As you get stronger, the boxes get taller.
When it comes down to it, thats what you need in vollyball, to jump high and run fast.
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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2009, 09:23:12 AM » |
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Some people just dont like the whole idea of "working out" but your friend probably really does want to play volleyball. What I would suggest is doing a volleyball specific workout with her to help her get the leg strength without doing any traditional exercises. A good volleyball workout would be:
20 minutes of interval sprints 20 minutes of jump training
There are a lot of videos on youtube showing how to do plyometrics (jump training) but its basically where you jump on and off boxes. As you get stronger, the boxes get taller.
When it comes down to it, thats what you need in vollyball, to jump high and run fast.
Mmk Tyvm Scooby! The Volleyball season is like half over, but season or not, knee muscle is essential. If you play sports or not. I heard the sprinting barefoot in sandpits helps your knees and ankles gain muscle, does it really? It makes sense but idk.
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2009, 09:12:32 PM » |
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Those are badass. Once I got a headache while doing them (I know, probably not breathing then, but they were hard...).
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2009, 07:25:28 PM » |
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Those are badass. Once I got a headache while doing them (I know, probably not breathing then, but they were hard...). I get headaches when I max out my pushups or dips or pull ups... It hurts soooo bad! and it throbs and dosent go away!! But its cuz I don't breathe.. I try to but its hard to keep them rhythmic.
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Age:15,Weight:170,Height5'7''[Bench:260(118kg), Squat:375(170.1kg),Clean:225(102kg),Deadlift:455(206.39g)] Goals:(by June 9th 2010)[Bench:265(120kg)+,Squat:405(184kg)+, Clean:245(111kg)+,Deadlift:430(195kg)finished] Long Term Goals:Beat Dodothebird at being the best 70yr old breakdancer
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