giving vegans a bad name

What I learned about vegans in my last video “vegan bodybuilding nutrition” is that there are a lot of angry vegans running around with chips on their shoulder and political axes to grind.  If you look at my Facebook Post, there is not one single word of thanks, just attacks because I dared to suggest that perhaps vegans are at a disadvantage when it comes to gaining muscle.  Silly me, I was expecting a tiny bit of gratitude from the vegan/vegetarian community for doing this video.

Not one word of thanks about my attempt to try to explain to the meat eating masses about the difficulties faced by vegans and why they deserve some respect.   Not one single comment about the protein quality tool that I spent months of engineering time on that helps vegans not only see graphically the amino acid profiles of over 5000 foods but also lets them see a list of the best complimentary protein sources for each food.  I was expecting and hoping for some suggestions on how to make it more useful, or maybe even a word of thanks for not ignoring their needs like all the other mainstream bodybuilding website do.  Again, silly me.

I do understand that like with most groups, its the 10% that give everyone else a bad name and I am sure this is the case in the vegan community as well.   For the benefit of vegans everywhere, the moderate contingent might do well and try to make it clear that the chip-on-their-shoulder vegans do not speak for them – its the only way that the “angry vegan” image will ever be shed.  There are many types of vegans but from what I have seen they fall into three major camps, the political vegans, the health vegans, and the religious vegans. The first two camps seem to have more tenacity than Mormon’s on their missionary in their desire to convert people to veganism and they are the ones going around tagging “meat is murder” on every wall.  They are the ones who try at every turn to make their meat eating co-workers feel uncomfortable at lunch time by calling their lunch “dead animals” or “muscle”.   Only the third group, the religious vegans, seem to belong to the live and let live mentality.

Being a vegan can have a LOT of benefits.  Hundreds of thousands of people have lowered their blood pressure, lowered their cholesterol, kicked diabetes, and become way healthier by passing on the animal products.  Eating lower on the food chain decreases the amount of pesticides, hormones, antibiotics, and heavy metals as well since animals concentrate these products.   Some of you have made the mistake of equating “vegan” with “thin” and healthy – not true at all.  Vegans can be just as unhealthy and morbidly obese as their meat eating brethren.   Potato chips, cookies, cake, Coke, peanuts, olives, and avocados are all vegan – chow down on those all day long and you will get FAT FAT FAT.   If you are vegan you still need to make good nutritional choices!

There are a LOT of reasons to be a vegan but one of them is NOT because you think it will be easy to gain muscle. Keep posting those photos of bodybuilding vegans if you think it will help you become the next vegan Jay Cutler.  I just love it when people hold up pictures of former steroid using, meat eating bodybuilders who have been vegan a few years as proof of how much muscle you can gain as a vegan :)

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6 thoughts on “giving vegans a bad name”

  1. Hi Scooby, thanks for your website and all the stuff you produce. I like your DIY attitude very much. Love your politics of the refusal of the most of the supplement stuff etc. Don´t take those “militant” vegans too seriously. Principally, I agree with them that in our industrial age of mass production of food “Meat is murder”, but I do not prefer dogmatism and simple mantras. I know couple of vegans who are not “militant” or “dogmatic” at all. I am almost vegetarian (eggs, milk – mostly bio quality, fish once in two weeks) and I absolutely agree with you that vegans and vegetarians need very detailed knowledge about food. You have created something extraordinary for all the interested people. What I appreciate as the most useful is that you recommend protein powder for vegans and vegetarians. Without that it was impossible for me to gain couple of kilos of muscle mass… Thanks.

  2. Great article AND video, Scooby! Both very insightful. Personally, i have followed a vegan diet for around 20 years, and it’s amazing, your 3 camp breakdown really hits the nail on the head! I guess i never really realized it but i am a “religious vegan” as the live and let live mentality and to each their own are totally up my alley. Thanks for all you do.

  3. Dirk-jan van Nifterik

    Thanks Scooby as a vrgan I really appreciate you time invested in spreading knowledge to vegans. I’m trying to figure out the protein calculator. Honestly I got a little disappointed, by seeing the amount needed tot eat from different sources to get my protein in. Would there be any help for my at for instance the sweatforhealth community? Thanks for you answer in advance.

      1. Dirk-jan van Nifterik

        Glad you took the time to answer! My newyear resolution: I’m going to learn about ‘ ‘good’ nitrition in 2016. Also hoping to discover my personal needs regarding marcro’s. In the meantime, I party gonna rely on vegan proteinshakes. I would be so happy, to go with wholefood sources of pure natural gains.

      2. Hey Scooby!

        I recently discovered the joy and wonder of Textured Vegetable Protein, which is possibly the cheapest protein source out there (even cheaper than chicken!). You can buy a 40lb bag of it for 60$, and 1/4th of a cup has 12 grams of protein.

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